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		<title>By: Bryant's Avanade Blog : WPF/E Server Controls</title>
		<link>http://donburnett.wordpress.com/2007/03/07/poor-maligned-and-misunderstood-by-many-wpfe/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant's Avanade Blog : WPF/E Server Controls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Burnett has an interesting piece call Poor, maligned, and misunderstood by many: WPF/E&#160;which I found to be an interesting read. He brings up two myths about WPF/E that (1) it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Idetrorce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idetrorce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very interesting, but I don&#039;t agree with you 
Idetrorce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting, but I don&#8217;t agree with you<br />
Idetrorce</p>
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		<title>By: totallydotnet Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>totallydotnet Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Diskussion über Databinding in WPF/E siehe auch Poor maligned, and misunderstood by many: WPF/E.)     30. April 2007, 12:12 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: totallydotnet Weblog</title>
		<link>http://donburnett.wordpress.com/2007/03/07/poor-maligned-and-misunderstood-by-many-wpfe/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>totallydotnet Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Diskussion über Databinding in WPF/E siehe auch Poor maligned, and misunderstood by many: WPF/E.)     30. April 2007, 12:11 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryant Likes's Blog : WPF/E Server Controls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryant Likes's Blog : WPF/E Server Controls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Burnett has an interesting piece call Poor, maligned, and misunderstood by many: WPF/E&#160;which I found to be an interesting read. He brings up two myths about WPF/E that (1) it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don Burnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Burnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No not really, my point is WPF and WPF/E are really two separate technologies, not even really related. The USE of XAML a declarative description language isn&#039;t used the same (you could even call it a different dialect), because of where it sits and what it interacts with.

WPF= Windows applications that happen to be net enabled. XBAP&#039;s cloud the issue a bit but they are really windows apps that run on a windows client inside a partial trust web browser.

WPF/E= a cross platform technology that sits as as a plug in technology that runs inside a web browser. It doesn&#039;t interact with the CLR or C# or VB.net compiled code. It just talks to javascript and interacts with it like everything else inside the browser does, including ASP.NET. My point is people can do the same type of 2 way databinding without having to have actually have it done inside the XAML itself.  Databinding is a hallmark function of ASP.net, and honestly having ASP.NET do it for you isn&#039;t any worse.

I also personally don&#039;t agree with your point of view that WPF/E is a defensive technology. It&#039;s very different from per say the Macromedia products like Flash. People are quick to judge but the way the plug-in works is very very different from flash. 

A good example of another declaritive language (like XAML) that works differently in different situations differently is POSTSCRIPT..  

Postscript used in a PDF is much different than the postscript that&#039;s fed to your laser printer for rendering. You wouldn&#039;t have the same generic postscipt file in both locations. My point is the use of XAML is different, and that&#039;s okay. You have XAML to describe more things in a WPF application where in a WPF/E application it just talks to and fires events to a scripting engine built into the browser. 

I think the fundamental difference I am talking about here between WPF applications and the use of XAML, and the difference in WPF/E means there probably will never be easy portability between the two no matter how much we might like it. 

All in all I won&#039;t say &quot; WPF/E is a good start - but it’s not enough - yet.&quot; 

Because I am seeing amazing things being done with it, and considering it isn&#039;t even 1.0 yet, by the time we get there well.. It is not a difficult technology to use or get something very cool done with it. I like it for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No not really, my point is WPF and WPF/E are really two separate technologies, not even really related. The USE of XAML a declarative description language isn&#8217;t used the same (you could even call it a different dialect), because of where it sits and what it interacts with.</p>
<p>WPF= Windows applications that happen to be net enabled. XBAP&#8217;s cloud the issue a bit but they are really windows apps that run on a windows client inside a partial trust web browser.</p>
<p>WPF/E= a cross platform technology that sits as as a plug in technology that runs inside a web browser. It doesn&#8217;t interact with the CLR or C# or VB.net compiled code. It just talks to javascript and interacts with it like everything else inside the browser does, including ASP.NET. My point is people can do the same type of 2 way databinding without having to have actually have it done inside the XAML itself.  Databinding is a hallmark function of ASP.net, and honestly having ASP.NET do it for you isn&#8217;t any worse.</p>
<p>I also personally don&#8217;t agree with your point of view that WPF/E is a defensive technology. It&#8217;s very different from per say the Macromedia products like Flash. People are quick to judge but the way the plug-in works is very very different from flash. </p>
<p>A good example of another declaritive language (like XAML) that works differently in different situations differently is POSTSCRIPT..  </p>
<p>Postscript used in a PDF is much different than the postscript that&#8217;s fed to your laser printer for rendering. You wouldn&#8217;t have the same generic postscipt file in both locations. My point is the use of XAML is different, and that&#8217;s okay. You have XAML to describe more things in a WPF application where in a WPF/E application it just talks to and fires events to a scripting engine built into the browser. </p>
<p>I think the fundamental difference I am talking about here between WPF applications and the use of XAML, and the difference in WPF/E means there probably will never be easy portability between the two no matter how much we might like it. </p>
<p>All in all I won&#8217;t say &#8221; WPF/E is a good start &#8211; but it’s not enough &#8211; yet.&#8221; </p>
<p>Because I am seeing amazing things being done with it, and considering it isn&#8217;t even 1.0 yet, by the time we get there well.. It is not a difficult technology to use or get something very cool done with it. I like it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your point about databinding misunderstands the central role it has in WPF.  Databinding is central to WPF development.  It isn&#039;t just used for populating and updating control contents with sources of data.  It&#039;s used for linking elements together, triggers and animation.  To say that ASP.NET can perform these tasks before the rendering takes place implies that you are just talking about data source rendering.  WPF uses databinding (or just binding) as the basis of the whole MVC architecture.

Also, generally - to say that WPF/E is good enough right now I think misunderstands the market place.  WPF/E is a defensive product.  There are other (good) competing technologies out there that are comparable to WPF and are also cross-platform.  WPF/E is a good start - but it&#039;s not enough - yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your point about databinding misunderstands the central role it has in WPF.  Databinding is central to WPF development.  It isn&#8217;t just used for populating and updating control contents with sources of data.  It&#8217;s used for linking elements together, triggers and animation.  To say that ASP.NET can perform these tasks before the rendering takes place implies that you are just talking about data source rendering.  WPF uses databinding (or just binding) as the basis of the whole MVC architecture.</p>
<p>Also, generally &#8211; to say that WPF/E is good enough right now I think misunderstands the market place.  WPF/E is a defensive product.  There are other (good) competing technologies out there that are comparable to WPF and are also cross-platform.  WPF/E is a good start &#8211; but it&#8217;s not enough &#8211; yet.</p>
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